10 lessons from a failed startup

A year and a half ago, my co-founder Dev Nag and I started an internet TV network for games called PlayCafe. Our ambitious plan was to run highly interactive game shows in which everyone was a contestant. Players could watch our hosts, answer questions, win prizes, form teams, call our studio, live chat, and run their own games. It was a huge undertaking, but despite great engagement — users watched for 87 minutes per session and 40 percent returned within a week — we didn’t reach enough users. We may revive it in the future, but for now, we’ve placed the site in hibernation and returned remaining funds to our investors.

What follows is a post-mortem of what we did right and wrong and how we will improve next time. I feel too many entrepreneurs are afraid to discuss their failures, locking up important lessons. I hope you find some of this useful.

1. Find quick money first. We were fortunate to know several top investors but we spun our wheels pitching too early and trying to optimize terms. Many entrepreneurs seek A-list investors first; quick (but not dumb) money is more valuable. There are only about 30 high-profile investors in the Valley, they all know each other, and they generally have enough deal flow to wait until risk is minimized.  Money is more valuable than advice or connections since there are easier sources for the latter.

Next time, we’ll focus on strengthening our network of investors who are comfortable at the earliest stage and invest quickly, even if they don’t have a high profile (as long as there aren’t red flags). More than three meetings is too long and indicates your network isn’t broad enough or your pitch is poor.

Lesser-known investors also often have more time to give you. David Shen, previously unknown to us, initiated multiple deals and a site-wide design evaluation for us; it took one meeting for David to commit. You want to find 10 David Shens. Once you have traction, the Reid Hoffmans and Ron Conways will find you anyway.

2. Content businesses suck (or: do it for love and expect to lose money). Producing quality content every day is a herculean task, especially live. The idea of creating both the content and technology for PlayCafe seemed achievable, but TV networks focus on distribution and studios on production for good reason: both are hard. Dev and I knew we were production novices but we thought live-filming a pretty girl delivering trivia with one camera guy was simple enough. We were wrong; the business was beyond our pay grade.

Watch American Idol, the country’s most popular show, and you’ll see how often they screw up despite massive resources: sound and video fail, hosts and contestants stammer, camera angles are wrong, stretches get boring, and it happens despite a reality format that is simpler than live sports or news. They also don’t have to deal with DOS attacks, server downtime, scalability, or customer support like we did.

I would advise any entrepreneur or investor considering content to think twice, as Howard Lindzon from Wallstrip warned us. Content is an order of magnitude harder than technology with an order less upside; no YouTube producer will earn within a hundredth of $1.65 billion. This will only become more true as DVRs and media-sharing reduce revenues and pay-for-performance ads eliminate inefficient ad spend, of which there is a lot. The main and perhaps only reason to do content should be the love of creating it.

3. Know when to value speed vs. stability. Another reason PlayCafe’s complexity hurt us is that developing good content and technology simultaneously required too much time. We tried to make each deep and stable — important, we thought, given our live nature — but we were too slow to iterate in a novelty- and entertainment-based business.

A metaphor I like is that a chess novice can defeat a master if moving twice each round. This generally increases bugs and offends perfectionists, but I agree with Reid Hoffman that if you review your first site version and don’t feel embarrassment, you spent too much time on it.

An exception is when your product is mission-critical for users. An eBay outage is a catastrophe while a Twitter one is a joke. eBay iterates slowly partly because 1.3 million businesses depend on it. It has to get it right.

4. Set a dollar value on your time. I agree with Paul Graham that good entrepreneurs are relentlessly resourceful, but I have a bad habit of bargain-hunting for sport. I spent three hours negotiating our wireless bill down $100, which was a poor use of time given our funding. The mantra to pinch pennies ignores the value of time.

Time is arguably more valuable than money because you can’t raise more time. Dev suggested pricing our hours. You can divide your available work hours by salary, remaining funding, or total company costs. Ours was around $50/hour. If I was going to spend 5 hours negotiating, I’d have to save at least $250. This value should increase as you gain funding and traction. For anything greater than $500 at any stage, I’d still strive for NPR: Never Pay Retail.

5. Marketing requires constant expertise. The main failure of PlayCafe was marketing. Dev and I came from PayPal, a strongly viral product at a company almost hostile to marketing. Our efforts in SEO, SEM, virality, platforms, PR, and partnerships weren’t terrible, but drawing users to a live event requires constant, skillful work.

Like creating content, I no longer think marketing is something smart novices can figure out part-time. As the web gets super-saturated, marketing is the difference-maker, and it’s too deep a skill to leave to amateurs.

An exception is inherently viral ideas, especially one-to-many virality, where normal use of your product reaches new users, not “word-of-mouth” viral that requires users to advocate you. With inherent virality, a barely adequate product might suffice, though even then marketing should accelerate growth. Next time we’ll raise enough to hire a marketing expert early.

6. Control and calculate your user acquisition costs. We initially conceived of marketing as a wildly creative exercise: filming viral videos, launching clever campaigns, pitching media players. That’s partly true, but the best marketing is controlled and calculated. If you know exactly how much it costs to acquire a user and you control the entire process, you then know how much capital and revenue you need, reducing your marketing plan from fuzzy guesswork to a clean formula.

Until you find a marketing expert, a place to start is the AdWords keyword tool, which shows you how many people Google for certain words, and the Traffic Estimator, which shows the rough cost of buying keyword ads on Google.com. Yahoo has similar tools. The ideal terms have a decent number of monthly searches (10,000+), low number of competing advertisers (3 or less), and strong relevance to your site.

For example, “game TV shows” has 12,100 monthly searches with 7 currently competing ads, while “2008 game show” has 14,800 monthly searches with only 1 ad. The relevance of these searchers is roughly the same so the latter is a better chance to acquire users cheaply. Your first users are the most expensive and can cost $10-20/user, but the cost should decline as your brand and word-of-mouth grows. The promised land is when you convert and monetize well enough to literally buy users.

Other tactics to control and calculate include A/B testing, tracking sign-up and purchase conversion, and creating landing pages to drive SEO and track different campaigns; look at the bottom of Mint.com for a good example. For fuzzier marketing tactics like blogs and press, knowing the time you spend on each, the value of your time, and your break-even acquisition cost will help you calculate efforts that aren’t cost-effective. A data-driven culture is a well-oiled machine.

I would also avoid money pits like PR firms, CPM ads, billboards, and TV/radio spots. We wasted $5,000 on a promoter who produced almost no buzz then said it takes a few $5,000 sprees to see results. Unless you control and calculate, these methods are mainly for marketers bad at math.

7. Form partner relationships early, even if informal. Two downsides of partnerships are that they’re slow and you lack control, but they do have advantages beyond driving users and revenues. Partners can make connections, teach you the market, flag potential competitors, and become potential acquirers. Believing we had little leverage, we de-prioritized several partners who later said they might have bought us if we had built a stronger relationship and proven our value.

We learned that you can build informal relationships with little time. Meeting decision-makers early, keeping them in the loop, and being genuinely helpful builds familiarity and goodwill, which reaps some of the above benefits without the pain of hashing out a deal. It takes foresight and maintenance, but dating before getting married also makes it more likely the partnership will be healthy.

8. Plan costs conservatively and err on the side of raising too much. While I’m doubtful more funding would have made the difference in our case, it would have let us try more tactics. We did a detailed financial plan, but I underestimated costs to fully expand. Next time we’ll better know real costs and likely bite the dilution bullet to raise a bit more than needed. This also prevents spending a lot of time raising extra rounds.

Glenn Kelman from Redfin has some nice common costs. To refine, ask a successful entrepreneur for a previous financial plan to vet yours. I disagree with folks who think financial plans are a waste. They are indeed wrong the moment you start, but they help you estimate headcount, fundraising, break-even, and whether your business model is insane.

9. The key to negotiating is having options. The single most useful piece of advice I got was from Bill Trenchard, founder of LiveOps: “Always have options.”

Almost everything you do as a founder/CEO involves negotiation: closing investors, hiring employees, signing partners, paying vendors, even advocating features internally. The best way to persuade your counter-parties is signaling — implicitly or explicitly — that you have viable options (also called BATNAs). Just two can be enough. Being at the mercy of a lone option is a recipe for getting screwed.

The more humans are involved, the more negotiable the system. If you hear a human say “that’s our policy” without much reason, bells should go off that you have room to negotiate if you reach the right decision-maker. Be nice, ask to speak with a manager, and politely signal that your endurance will outpace their patience. Higher-ups know the value of time and make exceptions accordingly. Sales managers are especially persuadable because they’re social and work on commission.

That so much of a founder’s job involves negotiation also means work can get adversarial and lonely. It really helps to have a group of friends you don’t have to haggle with.

10. Knowing isn’t enough. Most frustrating is that Dev and I knew much of the above going in. We’ve been doing this for 10 years each across three startups (though this is our first significant one at the helm). I could have sent this to myself two years ago and probably would have thought what many of you are thinking: this is nothing new.

What’s new for me is painfully experiencing the gap between knowing and doing. Advice is thrown liberally around the Valley, but like a surgeon who has studied but never practiced, I think it takes a lot of hands-on experience to learn intricacies and exceptions. I think advisers should more often say, “You probably won’t get what I’m saying until you screw it up.” Expertise takes time, and pithiness comes with a cost.

Plenty of useful advice conflicts for this reason: Know Your Customer vs. Build For Yourself, Don’t Raise Too Much vs. Don’t Raise Too Little. The better answer to these questions is It Depends. Advice isn’t like code that’s easily executed, but like map coordinates that require skill and context. My hope is that our experience brings us (and you) a little closer to that.

Mark Goldenson lives in Palo Alto, Calif. He is launching an innovative web venture in health care.

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  • Mark, thank-you so much for having the courage share this. Lots of good juice here for fellow tech entrepreneurs.
  • Thanks for sharing your experiences - very informative. I can relate to much of it.

    Curious as to why you link to apple for marketing? I always thought they did very little - just relied on a solid product?
  • Thanks for the amazing post. It had some really great advice and I really appreciate the honesty
  • I really appreciate the background and detail you've provided in this post. I hope we hear more from you in the future about your successes next. Thanks!
  • This is one of the most useful blog posts I have read so far on lessons from a failure. Putting a price on your time is an interesting concept. Thanks for sharing it.
  • I appreciate for sharing this with us! Wish you best!
  • David Eedle
    Mark

    I've been there and done it too. And, even more criminal, done it with my money. This is one of the best advice articles I've read for startups in a long time. Commiserations, but well done as well. We all survive to start up again another day.

    David Eedle
    http://www.NicheContentMillionaire.com
  • Great advices, thanks for sharing
  • Nash as well
    awesome article (p.s. my last name is nash too - to the guy above me)
  • Great advice here. Experience is worth a lot more than theory.
    Cheers,
    Nigel
  • Andy
    I have boot strapped a new website and we launch it very soon. I know everything you say is true and I know what I have to do, but your last point cut through me as I also know knowing is not enough. The problem for me is maintaining a focus whilst having to wear so many hats. Who knows what's going to happen in the coming months but reading this post reminded me that it isn't necessarily going to be easy.
  • Thanks for sharing !
  • Nice post. Learned a lot and really do appreciate you share after what you went thru.
  • Awesome! awesome! awesome... Great post
  • Well written and, as said above, a brave post - thanks for sharing, and for the useful resources linked to - will keep me in reading material for quite a while, I suspect!
  • Thanks for the really good advice. It's always good to see how others have tackled their start-ups and the pit falls that they encounter.
  • bmacwire
    Content for the sake of content is like bait without a hook. Unless you just love feeding fish.
  • Great article. Especially point number 10 hits the jackpot! You can read as much as you want, but when you are not doing and experiencing it, you will never get it. Reminds me of the quote of Robin Williams in Good Will Hunting:

    "So if I asked you about art, you'd probably give me the skinny on every art book ever written. Michelangelo, you know a lot about him. Life's work, political aspirations, him and the pope, sexual orientations, the whole works, right? But I'll bet you can't tell me what it smells like in the Sistine Chapel. You've never actually stood there and looked up at that beautiful ceiling; seen that ..."
  • This is a great post. Thanks for the honesty to dissect your efforts in order to help all aspiring tech entrepreneurs!
  • Thanks for the lessons.
  • Russ Thau
    Very insightful and I enjoyed this part the most:
    What’s new for me is painfully experiencing the gap between knowing and doing. Advice is thrown liberally around the Valley, but like a surgeon who has studied but never practiced, I think it takes a lot of hands-on experience to learn intricacies and exceptions.

    The statistics say 1st time entrepreneurs fail 75% of the time, but those that dust themselves off and continue have a much higher success rate. It is the detailed sharing of experiences like this that are going to help us future entrepreneurs. If anyone is interested in reading more stories like this visit: Startup Revival

    Thank you Mark.
  • Paul
    This was terrific. As a new CEO, I'd like to thank you for the courage and time to sit down and write this. I'm printing it and hanging it up in my home office.

    I especially liked #10 - you nailed it on the head. I can't tell you how many times we get conflicting advice, thrown around so liberally - and it's all right. As you note, it's the intricacies that define the success of the advice.

    Thanks!
  • chedigitz
    Insightful, I can truly relate to some of these blunders. Especially, finding money quickly, constant creativity is a requirement to make up for lack of capital. Also, I love the statement "Content businesses suck (or: do it for love and expect to lose money)", in these type of business you have to LOVE IT otherwise you will quit early. It took us 3 years to AND a lot of sleepless night before showings signs of profitability , and fully understand our niche market. We completely overlooked building relationships and networking since we were so focused on content creation.

    Again, Great post! Thank you for taking the time to share these gems. Best of Luck.
  • inboulder
    Your idea just wasn't any good and didn't work. Even if you had taken your own advice and followed your '10 lessons' it would have produced the same outcome, failed startup. So what is the real take away here?

    Lesson #1 - Have a good idea that has a possibility of success, if you do not, do not continue.
  • Excellent, well-written article. A quick must-read for entrepreneurs (future, present, or past).
  • Great article - I work for a start up and badly want to forward this around the office.

    There is one little trick that I would like to add....you wrote:

    "Until you find a marketing expert, a place to start is the AdWords keyword tool, which shows you how many people Google for certain words, and the Traffic Estimator, which shows the rough cost of buying keyword ads on Google.com. Yahoo has similar tools. The ideal terms have a decent number of monthly searches (10,000+), low number of competing advertisers (3 or less), and strong relevance to your site."

    You are one hundred percent correct - AdWords is a great tool, but the best strategic data comes if you analyze AdWords data along side data gleaned from Google Trends and/or Google Insights. It is all too easy to get suckered into buying into (and investing time) in keywords that are on the decline. Trends and Insights provide wonderful information on where people are searching for certain terms, what search volumes have been doing over time, and what certain news events do to search volumes.

    Again, that was a great article - thanks very much for sharing it and best of luck in your future endeavours!
  • Thank you! This was great... a little painful to read because some are close to home... lol. Thanks for putting it all into words and sharing it with us.
  • This is a great article, and perfect timing for my current venture!

    I am in process of working on a real estate informational website that will be video based. (An expansion on my VBlog). Probably a weekly wesbisode, and a few 2-3 minute motivational/educational videos a week to go with it. It will consist of news, interviews, and some infotainment to keep it from getting bland.

    So I will take your advice in this article to heart, as we have decided to do this on a shoestring w/out investors to get started, and will be pounding away through social and guerrilla marketing to keep the costs low. We are doing all of our own video and production, and of course a few of your points about pay grade are already hitting home! LOL

    Thank you for the great information!

    - Harrison
    http://GoGladiator.com/blog/
  • Jim
    By reading this post, I predict Mark Goldenson will fail again in his new venture.
    He had not learnt any real lesson from the failure, too bad.
  • jack Smith
    The author falls into the typical "doomed to fail" founders according to Guy Kawasaki. Investors, be careful.
  • Mark, it's great that you took the time to write this. Failing sucks, no doubt, but the lessons learned are truly priceless. You've learned many good ones, to be sure. Sorry about the pain and frustration that comes along with hitting the wall; I've been there. Here is my take on my own failed venture from a year ago:

    http://www.informationarbitrage.com/2008/07/mon...

    Keep swinging.

    Roger
  • Absolutely excellent advice.
  • This is the kind of article aspiring online entrepreneurs should tape to their wall and look at daily.

    It is true that content businesses tend to be less profitable but if you think creatively you can build continuous quality content without adding much if any more work or spending any more money, by working deals with guest bloggers, product reviewers, video creators. Obviously that's not true for more complex types of content such as your site attempted, but part of relentlessness is being creative in striking all kinds of JVs that benefit all parties.

    Paul Schlegel
    Founder, http://www.workathometruth.com
  • Great Article! I forwarded it to everyone in our office. We build social networks for clients launching start-up businesses and most, if not all of them, could use this advice.

    Amy

    Pearse Street Consulting www.pearsestreet.com
  • Mark,

    As the owner of a content agency this article rang doubly true for me. The first for the startup aspects, ironically I left early today after too many consecutive all-nighters at the office. And second for the work involved in content creation. Great article and thanks for sharing.
  • In our small world, we are at beta-testing stage and all the money spent so far has been our own. As it is the end of the month I've just paid yet another set of wages. Ouch!

    If anything can focus the mind it is spending your own money. I begrudge every 'wasted' penny - but will happily spend large amounts of cash if we deem it will bring a return.

    Using your own cash is painful, but we are at a stage where people can see what we've got, where we can go, and we understand the true value of our combined efforts. The loose sniffs of investor interest have come so far - to us freely - not by any of our team trying to prostitute our wares or selling vaporware.

    I thoroughly enjoyed reading this article and can see some areas where it is so easy to get sucked in - such as using advertising when a good promotional campaign has the same, sometimes better results. I feel the pain of your lesson, and wish you good luck in the future, but I also feel a little bad for your investors. Where were they as you were starting to fail - did they encourage, bring conflict, or did they just walk in blindly, and watch you fall off a cliff?
  • Whoops

    First lesson already missed - promote at every opportunity.

    Our website is http://www.stoodthere.com
  • Great article. It is a bit unfair to tar all PR firms with the same brush. The reason to avoid PR firms is that a PR/communications program is only as good as the strategic alignment and expertise of the marketing plan that drives it. As Mark points out, money spent on communications tactics is often a vaguely applied waste when (as he described) the marketing strategy is missing or based on naive or textbook assumptions. While there are plenty of slick vendors who will sing you a fine song and take your money, a real-deal marketing communications firm won't take the job unless they are OK with (or in some cases can provide) the client's marketing expertise. If there isn't any and the client can't be bothered to listen, nevermind. Ideally the client and the consultant both get some education in the process, and it is very possible to deliver high value for a new company's marketing dollars.
  • It's great you could nail down 10 lessons from a failed startup. The bottom line is we can't expect perfection the first time, and entrepreneurs know how to be successful by learning from mistakes they've made in the past, or through a network of others. My own experience is blogged on www.surviveastartup.blogspot.com from a different perspective.
  • Extremely well-written post. Thanks for sharing!
  • Mark,

    Great Article! But you didn't talk much about what you did right. While sharing your mistakes to help others is very generous, it would be equally helpful to know what did work. The article makes it appear that your efforts were one mistake after another, however I would suspect you did do a lot of things right.

    Best of luck with your new venture! Have you hired a marketing expert yet? Don't wait until after you finalize the strategy; the marketing expert should be on board prior to finalizing the business plan.

    Thanks,
    Roy
  • Wow. Incredible piece with valuable insight and lessons. I got flashbacks to my own experience at a content start-up that failed for many of the reasons you highlight. One more idea to throw in the mix (although it doesn't appear you suffered this) is to keep the scale in check. The tendency to ramp up, staff up, and hit for the bleachers instead of a small, slow, and steady build is a trap many start ups (especially content ones) have suffered from over the years.
  • thanks for sharing. Good luck ahead!
  • Great post thank you so much for sharing. Your comments around advice remind me of a favorite saying "In theory there is no differnce between practice and theory, in practice THERE IS."

    Best of luck on the journey forward.
  • Mark,

    Glad to see that you were able to take something away from your experience. And good for you for returning remaining funds to investors.

    I've certainly failed before, but my investors always appreciated that I acted with their interests in mind; yours will too.

    Let me know what this new company is about--always looking for potential investments!
  • Oh yeah, since you're interested in the gap between knowing and doing, you might want to check out Bob Sutton and Jeffrey Pfeffer's book, "The Knowing-Doing Gap":

    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/15785112...
  • Congrats for the post. You're the guy.
  • Great post! Very useful, especially for us ... we just started late last year. #10 is sooo right ... people can be stubborn and only learn from experience.
  • To understand the world of angel investing and where to find them read:
    How to Be an Angel Investor http://www.paulgraham.com/angelinvesting.html
    On starting up a company now, read other essays by Paul Graham at http://www.paulgraham.com

    Irina Patterson, angel investor
    http://twitter.com/mylifeandart
  • Nancy Ramamurthi
    I loved this post. Just adding a few thoughts for consideration re: your view of "marketing" - and urging you to expand it. Typing fast, and likely forgot some things, but marketing should:

    - be the expert on your users. They should understand the broader consumer marketplace, help you hone down to the right user segment(s) to target (those who'll care about what you're building), and then be the expert on your actual customers (google analytics, surveys of existing customers, etc. - these should be their friends). At the early stages, marketing should be there with you building your financial models and helping you assess if you can build a successful business (bottoms up and tops down assessment, look at retention, cost of acqusition, etc.)

    - help you shape the product beyond a/b testing and landing pages. It's as fundamental as helping you develop your core value prop and prioritizing product features/functionality such that they truly support what's key/matters to users. let's also not forget everything from pricing, your site name, look/feel, site copy (commos your personality/values), even site interaction - everything communicates. Remember, your site experience = your "brand" experience and marketing should be a part of helping you build/keep true/focused against a shared vision of what your product can be.

    - have a keen understanding of the competition and implications for your product....how is the competition positioned? who are they reaching out to? what are their marketing tactics? how do you compete and differentiate?

    - of course, marketing should then help you acquire and retain customers quickly/effectively and sustainably (..the idea being it's great if you eventually get out of the business of search engine arbitrage and can drive organic traffic to your site). Totally depending on the product (value/use case, etc.), competitive situation, consumer target, and your budget/expectations - marketing could involve a host of things from: SEM, SEO, PR, partner marketing/co-marketing, affiliates, CSEs, social media, email or other direct marketing, "buzz", or other advertising. Like you mention, though, a data driven approach is needed...should test/measure/learn/adapt. I would add that I frequently hear people say "oh we tried X and it didn't work" - be wary of this...sometimes the strategy may be completely right on, but the execution failed. investigate further if you think something makes sense.

    good luck on your next venture! look forward to seeing it out in the marketplace.
  • Doug Haslam
    Mark, thanks and appreciate you sharing your experience. Having been down the failed start-up path a few times, virtually all of what you write resonates...some painfully so. As others noted, your #10 hit home for many of us. Translating that knowing into action is the key, and your point about experience is spot on, albeit, that experience can be painful and come at a high price. Still, nothing ventured and all of that...

    Good luck with your new next venture.
  • Mark,

    Excellent post. You provide a lot of food for thought for everyone that's going through a startup, regardless of the industry.

    As it happens, I'm involved in an InternetTV startup called GotBiz.tv, so your comments were especially insightful and relevant.

    In my opinion, the ultimate lesson here is that marketing is everything. I've seen so many great products and services fail because they weren't promoted well. I try and convey that message on my show, because it's so disheartening to hear stories of good ideas that failed due to a lack of effective marketing.

    Thanks again.

    Andrew
    http://www.HelpMyBusiness.com
  • Marcus
    Great post, thank you for sharing your thoughts. I enjoyed reading about your thoughts and experience.

    Good luck in future endeavors.

    mv
  • Great post.
    There is an attraction to Unicity by providing unique content, but apparently I have to reconsider it.
  • Wow - now that is a really great posting! Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Really made my day.
  • thnx a lot man..... i especially liked the insight on financial plan not important....
    i have a start up on the way..... i am working on a completely new theory of approach.... u kill the rules and it dont apply... kill money v/s time and focus on other numbers... :D ....
    all the best for ur next venture, entrepreneurs not only dare, but care. cheers !!
  • Mark,

    I really can't indicate what a service you have done for entrepreneurs by writing this post. As a student of entrepreneurship (I am working on a Fulbright grant trying to understand entrepreneurial decision making), it is appalling how many ventures fail and how few thoughtful post mortems we have to learn from. I can count the number on one hand.

    I read your article the day it was published but i'm coming back today to let the community know that my good friend jordan just added a post mortem of venture backed startup to my blog. I hope that you and readers of your article find it equally illustrative.

    http://timetogetstarted.wordpress.com/2009/05/1...

    Best of luck, im sure you are tearing it up.
    Brett
  • techdom
    "It's best to have failure happen early in life. It wakes up the Phoenix bird in you so you rise from the ashes."
    -- Anne Baxter

    As someone who has been with a number of start-up companies and know quite a few entrepreneurs, I've yet to find anyone with as much insight and honesty about why they failed. Best of Luck to you, I have a feeling you'll do just fine.
  • Appreciate your lessons. Keep failing :)
  • Facebook User
    Great article, thanks for sharing.

    If you missed it, a great movie to see is Startup.com which I watched in Manhattan in 2000 while doing my first start up (and I did one other "turnaround" after that). Some great insights in your article. Good luck with your healthcare venture.

    All the best,

    Raz
  • socialnetworkdesign
    useful information to tweet url for..doing now!
  • Interesting how you bring up the negatives of focusing on content. I see where your coming from and agree. To consistently push out enough content to stay relevant while keeping it top notch is very time and energy consuming. Find ways to grab the content that is out there and put a new twist on it.
  • Mark -

    You are teh awesomesauce. It was an honor to be a guest on PlayCafe... We all loved it.

    If I might humbly add perspective from the user end:

    At the time PlayCafe was hitting the Internet, I myself was just beginning to understand the merging of communities and the Internet. PlayCafe did a really great job of harnessing communities of people to form groups (teams) that would play against other teams as part of the show.

    As it pertains to critical mass, we (if you remember, The Legion Team) always found it very frustrating that there were only a certain number of slots available for each team. In my opinion, it was this limitation that created the bottleneck.

    Of course, scalability becomes an issue; but it's a critical one to place at the top of the priority list. Each week the "ringleader" would have to go back and decide who was getting invites that day, and it ultimately limited participation. Why? Because we were all already part of the same community. We were all already on the same team. We wanted to play with each other, not against each other. It was us against the world, albeit if only 20 at a time.

    But with the inability for all of us to come back night after night, interest waned, and the lure of the Internet equivalent of A.D.D. took hold. ("Oh, look! A chicken!")

    Your words here are nothing short of courageous, and I have the utmost respect for them. This was just meant to shed some insight from a user perspective on why it was hard for us to grow as a PlayCafe community.

    You are amazing, and I would stand proudly to support any future endeavor you in which you take part.

    Thank you for giving us the memories of PlayCafe. You are truly an Internet pioneer.

    Jody Gnant
  • Great post! Thanks!
  • Startups are the underdogs and saying it's a tough position to be in is a colossal understatement.

    Being the owner of a small marketing firm, I recently sat down with Paul Flowers, author of Underdog Advertising, to discuss this very subject as it relates to marketing my young, cash-based firm.

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  • Rob Mangen
    The way this guy characterizes this is grossly misleading. Playcafe was a great idea, but extremely poorly executed. They spent $600/$900k of investors money. The set was basicly a couple steel racks from ikea, a pro wrestling table match/school lunchroom table, with a 600 dollar walmart lcd tv sitting on it. The quality of their video was easily eclipsed by a $800 trip to best buy as far as technology goes. They'd often have laziness issues on cam, where the host would just plain forget to have put new/charge the batteries in their mic, causing long delays. Why the talent was left to do anything requiring responsibility past showing up is befuddling. The on cam talent, were either not pretty enough, or just plain out unproffesional for anything close to tv.
    There would be weeks where the tech would work fine, then they'd try n add some feature noone was clamouring for, seemingly for no reason other than being busy bodies, resulting in weeks of the game being hardly usable. Some weeks they would plain give up n call it a night, no show. Then they'd remove the new tech they tried to add, (mind you this was all done with flash) and claim that coincidently a dos attack etc occured during that upgrade/mess with attemptm causing the issues. Of course the attack would mystically end coinciding with the removal of the tech they were trying to add, every single time. The game / site would then be stable again, only with alot less users due to frustration.
    Toward the end people would ask, where are you guys promoting, or offer suggestions for promoting it. The playcafe staff would be very snotty about this, with well you go do it then, kind of attitude, basicly acting like the product would sell itself, and relying on word of mouth. Something as simple as putting fliers on telephone poles in the san fran bay area they were based in, would have brought in thousands of users, retaining even a fraction of which would have easily quadrupled their viewership/user base on any given week. It was very clique'y to the point it was obvious on set. There were attempts to bring in new hosts, who were actually proffesional. You could see on their faces they were unamused at the behavior on set etc. You could also see they were unliked by the people already there on cam. None of those people were ever hired. Some of which were actually tv quality good looking people.
    Quite frankly it's amazing to me that after blowing $600k out of $900k of investor money, none of the investors are suing them, purely to find out where the money went in the discovery phase of the lawsuit.
  • 'Marketing requires constant expertise' - that's a great line and this is a very illuminating post, thank you!
  • There's value throughout this post. Thanks. I'm working on my second sole proprietorship startup - the first is doing "ok", stumbling though - so I find the timing of your post of value. Cash truly is king! Another challenge is determining what resonates and to whom.
  • fixed as much as possible, and then shipped back out). When he complained on the Internet and to the media about the shoddy product and poor customer service, people branded him a cry baby and wrote him off as a statistical anomaly.
  • fixed as much as possible, and then shipped back out). When he complained on the Internet and to the media about the shoddy product and poor customer service, people branded him a cry baby and wrote him off as a statistical anomaly.